质子公司首席执行官Andy Yen在星期五取消了一系列几乎全公司范围的"再访谈",这将会迫使员工解释他们是如何使用AI的,明确的意图是,如果在质子公司领导层的眼里没有充分使用,他们可能会被解雇,据6名现任质子公司员工和404媒体获得的大约2小时全方位会议的录音。
这一举动是在404 Media星期四发表调查后发生的,调查显示Yen是如何积极推动AI穿越质子的,在某些情况下,尽管员工担心安全。 在一次交换中,公司安全Slack频道的一名雇员敦促质子至少要花几天时间才能将新写好的代码进行笔试,然后进行直播。 「那是胡说八道,当然可以快速安全,“停止总是想着如何慢一点,更注重如何快一点。” Yen补充道,“停止爱心地手写我们所有的密码
重新采访的取消可能不会解决许多质子用户的担忧,他们更注重质子解除安全优先级;许多质子用户在过去24小时里在社交媒体上爆破了公司的领导地位,并明确要求延辞职。
调查是基于与8名现职和1名前质子员工的对话,Slack聊天,见面音频,以及公司CTO巴特巴特勒撰写的AI宣言。 它描绘了质子的照片,这与公众对公司谨慎保护隐私的看法大不相同。 相反,质子正与AI在很大的程度上抢先取得更多的年收入。 调查还发现整个质子公司存在一种恐惧文化,员工对安全有真正的担忧,或被要求与AI开发以安全为重点的产品,但由于Yen在其他人面前嘲笑或侮辱员工,因此感到无法发声。
」一名雇员在星期五全方位会面后告诉404媒体
在会议即将开始之际,Yen 称说,“我想亲自承认,我本人曾有过沟通失败,有许多事情可能而且应该以不同的方式传达,而这是我必须经过一段时间思考和改进的事情。 因此我将这样做。”
“那意味着前进吗?他补充说
延称领导在最后几天聚集在一起,讨论重访事宜,并与质子板交谈。 " 他们正在密切监测局势," Yen 称。 (Proton为质子基金会所有,其董事会包括Yen,Tim Berners Lee爵士,Carissa Veliz教授,Dingchao Lu,和Antonio Gambardella.
在与领导和董事会讨论之后,“我们决定实际取消重新面谈”,Yen 称。 “为什么?我认为,实际上,比如说,他们无意地已经达到了目的。 雇员们正在谈论和学习AI。
称提到其中一部分是“在各团队之间重新分配人才”。 但不会因为AI而失去工作。
后来,Butler 称 Yen在电话中“需要而且他也承诺要做得更好”他如何与雇员沟通。 “有效和务实地使用AI并不意味着我们已经放弃安全、良好的架构或健全的软件工程原则。”
“我们搞砸了,我们知道我们搞砸了,”巴特勒后来回应了一位雇员在会议上的评论。
“你的旧工作已经消失”。 巴特勒的AI宣言,他写道,不接受大赦国际对特派团本身的成功构成“实际威胁”。
对重访取消的反应被分成了质子公司员工404 Media的谈话。 称表示,也有人认为这不会改变任何事情,雇员补充说,他们“本来希望领导团队负起真正的责任。” 因为Yen拥有质子的大部分股份
另一位雇员称在质子取消了重新采访后,“他们称在下一口气中想继续推进AI,在重新采访中要测量的东西将成为业绩审查的一部分。”
“称显然没有改变方向。 作为质子用户,尽管我们许多人担心融资,但重新采访并未取消。 我认为,它超越了沟通问题和日益增长的痛苦。”
“现在,一切似乎都与控制损害相一致,”
另一位雇员称“对包括Andy [Yen]在内的处理方式大为满意”。
质子公司没有对征求意见的请求作出答复。
404 Media星期四公布调查后,Yen带往Reddit. 用户否决了他的回应超过1200次。 社交媒体上的许多质子用户称他们正在取消他们的支付质子计划。
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On Friday, Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, cancelled a series of nearly company-wide ‘re-interviews’ that would have forced employees to explain how they are using AI, with the clear intention that they may be fired if not using it enough in the eyes of Proton leadership, according to six current Proton employees and audio of an around two hour all-hands meeting obtained by 404 Media.
The move came after 404 Media published an investigation on Thursday, which showed how Yen was aggressively pushing AI across Proton, in some cases despite security concerns from employees. In one exchange, an employee in the company’s security Slack channel urged Proton to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.” Yen added, “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”
The re-interview cancellations likely don’t address the concerns of many Proton users, who are more focused on Proton’s deprioritization of security; many Proton users have blasted the company’s leadership on social media over the last 24 hours and explicitly called for Yen to resign.
The investigation was based on conversations with eight current and one former Proton employees, Slack chats, meeting audio, and an AI manifesto written by the company’s CTO Bart Butler. It painted a picture of Proton that is very different to the public’s perception of a company carefully protecting privacy. Instead, Proton is barreling ahead with AI in large part to achieve more annual revenue. The investigation also found a culture of fear across Proton, where employees have genuine concerns about security or being asked to develop security-focused products with AI, but feel unable to voice them because Yen mocks or insults employees in front of everyone else.
“I don’t think he will change anything, and I think the only reason we had this meeting is because he has a rebellion on his hands,” one employee told 404 Media after the all-hands meeting on Friday.
Near the start of the meeting, Yen said, “I want to acknowledge myself, personally, that there was a communication failure on my part and there are many things that probably could and should have been communicated differently, and this is something that I’ll have to reflect on and improve over time. So I will do that.”
“So what does that mean going forward? Going forward, I'm still going to push,” he added.
Yen said leadership gathered in the last couple of days to talk about the re-interviews, and spoke to the Proton board too. “They’re closely monitoring the situation,” Yen said. (Proton is owned by the Proton Foundation, whose board of trustees includes Yen, Sir Tim Berners Lee, Prof. Carissa Veliz, Dingchao Lu, and Antonio Gambardella.)
After those discussions with leadership and the board, “We’ve decided to actually cancel the re-interviews,” Yen said. “Why? Well, I think actually in a, let’s say, unintentional way, they have actually already served their purpose.” As in, employees are now talking and learning about AI.
Yen also mentioned “org changes,” and said that part of this is “redistributing talent across teams.” He said that the reorganization will happen next month, “but there will be no loss of jobs from AI.”
Later in the call, Butler said Yen “needs to, and he has committed to, doing better” regarding how he communicates with his employees. “Using AI effectively and pragmatically does not mean that we’ve given up on security, or good architecture, or sound software engineering principles,” he added.
“We fucked up, we know we fucked up,” Butler later said in response to an employee’s comments in the meeting.
“Your old job is gone,” Butler’s AI manifesto, posted to Slack, told engineers, 404 Media reported on Thursday. He wrote that not embracing AI posed an “existential threat to the success of the mission itself.”
Reactions to the re-interview cancellations were split across the Proton employees 404 Media spoke to. One said, “Some are happy as it’s progress. Others believe that this won’t change anything because there isn’t any consequence for Andy [Yen].” The employee added they “would have preferred real accountability from the leadership team.” They said they felt not much could have happened due to Yen having the majority of Proton’s shares.
Another employee said, after Proton canceled the re-interviews, “They said in the next breath they want to continue pushing AI and that the things that were to be measured in the re-interviews would become a component of the performance reviews.”
“They have said clearly the direction had not changed. As a Proton user that doesn’t reassure me,” the employee said. “As an employee, the re-interviews weren’t cancelled until this became public despite concerns raised by many of us. I think it goes beyond communication issues and growing pains.”
“Right now, everything seems consistent with it being damage control,” they said.
Another employee said they were “mostly happy with how this was addressed including by Andy [Yen].”
Proton did not respond to a request for comment.
After 404 Media published the investigation on Thursday, Yen took to Reddit. Users downvoted his response more than 1,200 times. Many Proton users on social media said they were cancelling their paid Proton plans.
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